How to raise Backyard Chickens: Re: [CHICKENS-101] dry ice/frozen water

Sunday, January 19, 2014

Re: [CHICKENS-101] dry ice/frozen water

Check into the regulations for vets and processing plants. There is a reason chickens and other poultry, and animals are stunned first and it is because it has been proven that they do feel pain.

Cathryn  rainbowsilkiesTM  in  Michigan

On Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:31 PM, Diane Straight <straight6@earthlink.net> wrote:

I've been on a volunteer ambulance crew for years, and been on a lot of accident and injury calls.

When people have been in an accident, the immediate shock usually just doesn't register. They seem to have about 20 to 30 minutes in which they can do incredible things before it really sets in. They think they're absolutely fine.

Later, especially if it was a traumatic shock, they often don't remember much of anything about what actually happened to them.

If you cut your finger, and see it happen, you know that it usually takes a few seconds for it to begin to really hurt. But if you touch something hot, your finger will jump back before you even get a chance to feel and think about it and make a decision. That's an automatic nerve reaction.

I believe that cutting the head off a chicken, severing the spinal column and nerves like that, is so quick and so shocking that they never really know it. The head lays there, the eyes stare vaguely for just a second and close.

As it happens, chickens, just like frogs and snakes, have a second nerve center further down the spine that reacts automatically. Therefore the bird will still kick, even though it's dead. Just like a snake will strike, even hours later, even though the head is cut off. Frog's legs have to have a cover over the frying pan, they will actually jump out. It's just a very primitive automatic nerve reaction.

That's just what I've seen actually happen.

How you want to go about knocking off a chicken is each person's own decision. I used to feel bad about it too.

But if one of those roosters ambushes you some day, and digs your hand or foot or face with his spurs, or your child, you might have less problem with his quick trip to freezer camp. Worked for me!

Diane S.

----- Original Message -----

From: susan traynor

To: CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:07 PM

Subject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] dry ice/frozen water

On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:49 AM, <dawnmariegrace@yahoo.com> wrote:

As far as the dry ice.....I haven't read all of the posts but I just can't see how this could kill an animal the size of a raccoon quickly or humanely . I read a couple of articles and it says NOT to use this method. A quicker more humane way to "cull" (kill!) a chicken or rooster would be to "wing it's neck" or chop it's head off. The dry ice method just hides the deed and makes it less messy.

THANK YOU. Not even having chickens yet, (here to learn) was reluctant to say this.

Sorry folks, but am not a vegetarian or vegan. I eat meat and feed my dogs raw so that means meat/bone. Have shot and killed my share of wild turkey and have plucked them clean before baking and serving. Know the "fundamentals" of a brain stick and even have plans for a killing cone.

Sorry, but if you are afraid of blood ... Quick and clean is the most humane way to end life

The weather forecast is NOT good here. Could get up to two feet of snow here. YUCK. My driveway is scary and dangerous as it is.

Susan Traynor in Niles MI