Saturday, March 31, 2012

[CHICKENS-101] What kine bird?

 

Hi, we inherited this hen when we moved into our rental, does anyone know what kind of bird she is?


Scott
- Keaau HI
http://monkeyproblems.com/  (Raising Chickens and creating websites that are found)

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[CHICKENS-101] Mowed grass for chickens

 

 

 Linda, I am sure your chickens were thrilled with the grass.  I haven’t experienced this, but have heard that mowed grass fed to chickens can cause them to have impacted crops.  I think it is because the mowed pieced are too long – unlike eating it from the lawn and biting it off in smaller pieces, the mowed grass is long enough to get tangled up inside their crops.  Just a warning………….I would hate for any of them to end up with that problem.  It can kill them if not treated. 

 

            Tonight, while tucking in the girls, my daughter said one of our turkey hens is squeezed into the chickens nest box and when she tried to shoo her out, the hen hissed at her and wouldn’t move.  Can we say B-R-O-O-D-Y……………….I have 14 turkey eggs that are going in the incubator next Sunday………..I never thought I would need an incubator, and I swear, I need two! 

 

 

Laura

 

Laura Roberts

R Half Pint Farm

Spotsylvania, VA 

 


From: CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Gephart
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 8:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: Thin shell

 

 

Marla,
Great! They love grass too. I mow,then give them huge
hand fulls.

Linda Gephart

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[CHICKENS-101] April MI show

 

Scroll down please   They messed up the name, should be one word, lower case, but it is such a pretty ad that I left it.  Took a picture of my silkie and put it all together.  :x lovestruck
http://www.fowlfest.org/Schedule%20of%20Events.html
 
Cathryn rainbowsilkies MI

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Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: Thin shell

 

I pull chickweed too!  It's full of vitamins and is a diet staple in many 3rd world countries for people too.  My grocery store sells it fresh for salads!  LOL!!
Cathryn rainbowsilkies MI


From: Marla <marlajulich@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: Thin shell

 
I don't feed grass. I do give chickweed and grubs to the ones in pens though. I mowed their pen because it's so big and the grass/weeds are growing faster then they can keep up with. That's the layers pen. The bantam and other show birds pens are smaller in order to have them covered so they keep up with theirs. The layers have a covered area that has a gate to the outer pen.
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Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: Thin shell

 

I don't feed grass. I do give chickweed and grubs to the ones in pens though. I mowed their pen because it's so big and the grass/weeds are growing faster then they can keep up with. That's the layers pen. The bantam and other show birds pens are smaller in order to have them covered so they keep up with theirs. The layers have a covered area that has a gate to the outer pen.
Marla
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Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: Thin shell

 

That's a good way to get blocked, clogged crops.  I learned it thru the school of hard knocks. 
 
Cathryn rainbowsilkies MI


From: Linda Gephart <gephart_linda@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: Thin shell

 
Marla,
Great! They love grass too. I mow,then give them huge
hand fulls.

Linda Gephart

From: Marla <marlajulich@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: Thin shell

Oh yes I didn't say that did I. I feed mine a complete laying ration. They're also out in a large area but not free range. Big enough though I mowed it this week because it was getting tall enough to mow.
Marla



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Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: Thin shell

 

Marla,
Great! They love grass too. I mow,then give them huge
hand fulls.

Linda Gephart

From: Marla <marlajulich@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: Thin shell

Oh yes I didn't say that did I. I feed mine a complete laying ration. They're also out in a large area but not free range. Big enough though I mowed it this week because it was getting tall enough to mow.
Marla

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Re: [CHICKENS-101] sick chick--NOW Shavings?

 

Gail Damerow's Poultry Health Handbook.
 
Cathryn rainbowsilkies MI


From: Kathie-Briallen Collies <briallen@tznet.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] sick chick--NOW Shavings?

 
Thank you for all this information!!!!
Can you recommend a good starter book on raising Chickens??
Kathie Raap

What lies behind us and what lies before us
are tiny matters compared to what lies Within Us.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
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From: Laura A. Roberts
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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 11:44 PM
Subject: RE: [CHICKENS-101] sick chick--NOW Shavings?

The chicks can slip and slide on newspaper which can cause spraddle leg, so you want to avoid that as their top layer of bedding. I use newspaper underneath everything to be able pick it all up and roll it up for trash. NOW, having said that, ideally, the first few days you want their bedding to be something they won't slip on or try to eat. I use bounty paper towels or old terry cloth towels and pitch in the wash at least once or twice daily. Paper towels are more convenient, but can get costly if you have lots of chicks pooping their brains out.....and this they do!

After the first few days, you can use a shredded wood bedding or corn cob or fluffed bedding....by then, they know what to eat and what to drink. I do use newpaper underneath the bedding to 1) absorb spills of water and 2) enable me to roll up their dirtied bedding for the trash. NO CEDAR shavings. Cedar has a heavy oil content, which is why it smells heavenly in a closet and repels insects, but it is also very hard on the respiratory system. It is never recommended for animals in a confined space, not even horse stalls. The only place I use cedar shavings are INSIDE a zippered dog bed...but, that is neither here nor there. Pine shavings and Aspen shavings are good.

I always start my chicks, one at a time coming out of their shipping box...first a dip or two of plain water and then I sit a plate of grow gel plus down for all of them to devour...it is full of vitamins and minerals and the B vitimins increase their appetites, too. It is colorful and attracts them.

As far as electrolytes, don't use them everyday. It is better to use them for 2-3 days, then plain water. While electrolytes have lots of good minerals and vitamins, they can be hard on their little kidneys.

You will hear differing opinions and advice.....for peace of mind, get a good book or read the directions the hatcheries give. You can weigh the advice and try different things on your own.

My suggestions work for me, but admittedly, I am not the most experienced poultry person here. Also, there may be several correct ways to do something, which means differing methods are not necessarily incorrect.

Keep the temperatures where they need to be, allow room for them to get away from the heat and plenty of ventilation without a draft. Keep them dry.

Feed a chick starter crumble. I do not feed medicated feed. I only medicate if they need it.

Good luck. It is a learning process and it does get easier, although I still get very upset when a chick dies despite trying to save them. Unfortunately, by the time they look and act sick, they are usually too far gone. Same with grown chickens. Actually, same with lots of animals.

Laura



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[CHICKENS-101] Re: does the hen start to turn the eggs before she "broods" Prof Replies...

 

Allen wrote:
"I marked my eggs which my hen has not started to sit on. She's an unknown quantity in this. She now has 2 eggs in the nest. I understand that if she's going to brood she'll wait till she has the right number of eggs. But the question is will she start to turn the eggs before she does this? And if this is the case that hen's turn eggs before setting and if they don't turn the eggs, then either they aren't fertile or she's not going to set????

I remind you I have very limited patience. "
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Hi Allen:
The short answer is "Yes" the hen "turns" her eggs before she has a full clutch and "decides" to incubate.
 
As to your patience you will just have to adjust as there is little (albeit some...) you can do to affect the process.
 
*** 15 ***
The second part of your question is a bit more complicated.
"... if they don't turn the eggs, then either they aren't fertile or she's not going to set????"
 
If there is a rooster, or there has been a rooster in the flock within previous 10-14 days of laying the probability of fertility is very high unless there was (is) a very unbalanced male to female ratio - for argument sake let's say 1 male and 40 females -in which case there might be a relatively high percentage of infertile eggs. 
 
In any event there is little or no relationship between turning or not turning eggs, egg fertility or propensity to set (incubate, "go broody").
 
Fertility is controlled by the presence of viable males, Incubation is a function of changes in hormone composition and ratios. These changes are brought about by photoperiod - responsible for about 97-99.999% of the changes.  A small contribution may be made by the presence of sperm (androgen) in the oviduct, however, the presence of broodiness and tendency to incubate among all female flocks argues strongly for light being the causative factor.   
 
Happy Chicken Keeping!
 
Prof.
 
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[CHICKENS-101] sitting hen

 

Can you force a hen to sit on eggs by putting her in a small pen?

Thanks

Fran

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Re: [CHICKENS-101] sick chick--NOW Shavings?

 

the other chicks are fine. I did give all of them some medicated feed and they are getting the "special" water. thanks!
Kathie Raap

What lies behind us and what lies before us
are tiny matters compared to what lies Within Us.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
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From: CathrynTherese Fitch Walden
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I would use rag towels and or course textured paper towel for the first week. Are the rest of the chicks ok with out medicine? No other chicks are sick?

Cathryn rainbowsilkies MI

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Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: Thin shell

Oh yes I didn't say that did I. I feed mine a complete laying ration. They're also out in a large area but not free range. Big enough though I mowed it this week because it was getting tall enough to mow.
Marla

<<<<<<<<<Marla,
I have never given mine oyster shell. They
free range around the yard,but i do give
them crumble on the side. It has everything
they need for eggs.
 
Linda Gephart
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Re: [CHICKENS-101] Egg Bound?

 

That's a hard one to know what is going on for sure.  I'd put her on a broad spectrum antibiotic for 14 days and watch to see if she clears up.
Cathryn rainbowsilkies MI


From: goatsnchickens <goatsnchickens@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 1:24 AM
Subject: [CHICKENS-101] Egg Bound?

 
I have an Ameracauna/Easter Egger hen who I think may be egg bound. She's a new egg layer and has only been laying about a month. Today I noticed that she's holding her tail at half mast and she isn't eating/drinking much. Her abdomen feels 'full' and her vent is contracting.

I sat her in hot water for half an hour this afternoon which she liked and spread some olive oil around her vent. I haven't tried anything invasive since I'm not sure what I'm doing. I can't see an egg. She does seem in some discomfort. I have her separated out with her buddy hen and am keeping them warm. They have food and water with electrolytes.

I'm worried that I'm going to lose her. She's not a very big hen and on one other occasion she was in and out of the next box for hours before finally laying an egg, so I wonder if this is going to be an on-going issue if she does survive this? Since she was a new layer at the time I figured it was probably pretty normal to have some adjusting to do. It's hard to know.

She is pooping with regularity but there's a weird orangish component to her droppings, that I've never seen before. It's the consistency of mustard? Could it be some other kind of peritoneal infection?

I'd appreciate any feedback.
Thanks,
Laura



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Re: [CHICKENS-101] sick chick--NOW Shavings?

 

Thank you for all this information!!!!
Can you recommend a good starter book on raising Chickens??
Kathie Raap

What lies behind us and what lies before us
are tiny matters compared to what lies Within Us.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
----- Original Message -----
From: Laura A. Roberts
To: CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 11:44 PM
Subject: RE: [CHICKENS-101] sick chick--NOW Shavings?

The chicks can slip and slide on newspaper which can cause spraddle leg, so you want to avoid that as their top layer of bedding. I use newspaper underneath everything to be able pick it all up and roll it up for trash. NOW, having said that, ideally, the first few days you want their bedding to be something they won't slip on or try to eat. I use bounty paper towels or old terry cloth towels and pitch in the wash at least once or twice daily. Paper towels are more convenient, but can get costly if you have lots of chicks pooping their brains out.....and this they do!

After the first few days, you can use a shredded wood bedding or corn cob or fluffed bedding....by then, they know what to eat and what to drink. I do use newpaper underneath the bedding to 1) absorb spills of water and 2) enable me to roll up their dirtied bedding for the trash. NO CEDAR shavings. Cedar has a heavy oil content, which is why it smells heavenly in a closet and repels insects, but it is also very hard on the respiratory system. It is never recommended for animals in a confined space, not even horse stalls. The only place I use cedar shavings are INSIDE a zippered dog bed...but, that is neither here nor there. Pine shavings and Aspen shavings are good.

I always start my chicks, one at a time coming out of their shipping box...first a dip or two of plain water and then I sit a plate of grow gel plus down for all of them to devour...it is full of vitamins and minerals and the B vitimins increase their appetites, too. It is colorful and attracts them.

As far as electrolytes, don't use them everyday. It is better to use them for 2-3 days, then plain water. While electrolytes have lots of good minerals and vitamins, they can be hard on their little kidneys.

You will hear differing opinions and advice.....for peace of mind, get a good book or read the directions the hatcheries give. You can weigh the advice and try different things on your own.

My suggestions work for me, but admittedly, I am not the most experienced poultry person here. Also, there may be several correct ways to do something, which means differing methods are not necessarily incorrect.

Keep the temperatures where they need to be, allow room for them to get away from the heat and plenty of ventilation without a draft. Keep them dry.

Feed a chick starter crumble. I do not feed medicated feed. I only medicate if they need it.

Good luck. It is a learning process and it does get easier, although I still get very upset when a chick dies despite trying to save them. Unfortunately, by the time they look and act sick, they are usually too far gone. Same with grown chickens. Actually, same with lots of animals.

Laura

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