.....and postage just went up for e get to pay more for the service you just described. I know there are good postal workers who care. My PO will give my chicks first prioity and call me at 4 or 5 am in the morning.
Cathryn rainbowsilkies MI
From: lafleche49 <hobbyguy@centurytel.net>
To: CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:41 AM
Subject: [CHICKENS-101] Re: aggravated with Murray McMurray PHOTOS POSTED
Hi All, I don't know what has happened to the good service we used to get from our post offices. The new employees do not take any pride in what they do even though they make decent wages, have a good vacation plan, and a good retirement system in place.
If they hate their job so much then they should quit and let someone else who is broke and jobless have it. Maybe after slinging burgers for a while they might be able to come back in a couple of years and take their old job a bit more seriously. If being a cashier in McDonalds didn't make you go postal then neither should selling stamps or sorting mail in a quiet room.
I can remember a time when a box of chicks or hatching eggs could hypothetically make it from North Eastern Maine to south western California and still be in decent shape. Now days I can get day old chicks from one state away and half the chicks in the box are dead or the hatching eggs have been shaken so badly that only one out of a box full has any chance of hatching. Some past employees of the postal system have even reported on the internet that they saw people throwing boxes marked fragile into bins when they could have walked a couple of steps and sat them down gently. When I read these posts I wondered how many boxes of chicks had been "air mailed" in this manner?
They say the government is busted but the postal system went sour back in the 70s in some areas of the country. It was just about the time that the airlines took the mail delivery contracts away from the railroad that things started going sour and mail was getting lost and damaged a lot more frequently.
I have heard first hand accounts and seen pictures of what was done by postal employees way back then. A group of people were discussing this type of thing at a poultry show and a lady pulled pictures out of her purse that were sent by some of their dissatisfied customers.
She had a picture of a 50 count chick box that was stomped flat on one end and only a few chicks in that end missed being squashed to death. I saw another chick box that evidently had something heavier placed on top of it and almost flattened it. Oddly enough the chicks survived but the post master on the other end sure got a good cussing from the recipient who paid for those chicks and the shipping. When you paid $3.50 per chick back in the 70s you has quite an investment tied up in that small box of chirping fluff balls. In modern inflated currency that would equate out to about $7.50 per chick not counting the postage.
I once shipped Guinea eggs to a man in southern Iowa and got a phone call a few days later informing me that the box had the end busted out and about half of the eggs were smashed. I had trouble swallowing his story because I had shipped his eggs securely in foam padding and in a styrafoam box that was used by pet stores to ship tropical fish. A 180 pound man could stand on one of these boxes and not even make it squeek. To make it short I replaced the order and eventually saw the box by the end of that month when I met up with this man at a swap.
He and I both believe that this box was intentionally stomped by a disgruntled employee. At first we thought the black marks were from a tire but on closer inspection we both came to the conclusion it was from a soft rubber soled shoe or boot.
We hear these sob stories from the post office people that claim they are losing business because people are emailing on the internet and not sending letters through the mail any longer. There are also a lot of people paying their bills via the internet as well. The bill paying caught on real big with some people because it was done in a few minutes and they got a confirmation of payment back by the end of the day. No more lost bills or lost payments because of postal errors.
The truth with the majority of us is that many of the people we chat with or email are people we would never have encountered if there hadn't been an internet.
Also because of these new contacts we are constantly swapping eggs, chicks, and garden seed [just as a few examples]. How do the Postal
people handle this new business we send their way? They break our eggs, kill our chicks, and let their letter sorters tear up the envelopes and rip out the seed packets we placed in those envelopes.
Case in point I sent a check and a few seeds to a gardening friend in Kentucky. He emailed me a few days later to tell me that the check couldn't be cashed because it was ripped up by the letter sorter and the some of the numbers were missing, the letter I sent was legible but chewed up and the seeds were gone. I told him just to mail the envelope and the ripped check back to me and I would send another as soon as it arrived.
Then if things like this aren't bad enough the government is so paranoid of someone who may cause them some type of unknown harm that they run everything through an x-ray machine, that passes through certain counties or larger cities, which is strong enough to sterilize eggs and sterilize or mutate garden seed.
It hasn't been that long ago that the postal system was refusing to ship chicks or other live animals through the postal system. Some of you probably remember when McMurray, Strombergs, Urch, and dozens of other people who shipped chicks had to band together and go argue with these idiots at a big meeting on more than one occasion to retain the right to ship our live animals and birds through the mail.
The win was shallow and in some places the PO has changed the schedules around so that you cannot ship chicks. I know because I live in one of these dead zone areas. I can order and receive them but for some reason can't ship and that makes absolutely no sense at all. I spoke with the lady who runs Schlecht Hatchery in Iowa and she told me that she has to drive their chicks to the airport [rather than the local PO as they once did], so that there will be enough boxes from other hatcheries there that the airline PO system will accept them.
There has been some sort of mental defect that has eaten away at the brain of every system that was designed to make life a lot more simple for all Americans. The government is there to serve, protect, and guarantee our freedoms, and NOT to rule over us like we were a bunch of ignorant school children.
The postal system was created to SERVE the interests of the public and to move approved items and information that are important to the livelihood and well being of the customer and the country in general. As we have all witnessed at one time or another they have seemed to have gone out of their way to do just the opposite.
Marla this total disregard is not only for life but for anything that causes these mentally challenged people any type of aggravation in their daily routine. When the Postal System began to fail us many people went over to Fed Ex to ship their legal mail and fragile items thinking that maybe they would handle our shipments with a lot more care and respect. Then a few days ago we all witnessed a Fed Ex employee who got ticked off and just threw a computer monitor over a security fence and then drove away.
Many of the so called animal rights people try to lay the blame off on the people who hatch and ship but don't have the guts to run head on with the real problem which is the postal system and it's employees. If a shipment of chicks is left on the hot pavement in the summer time, waiting for the next truck to come along and pick them up maybe an hour later, then the person[s] responsible for those chicks setting there in the sun should be fired as well as the whole chain of command all the way up to it's "knowledgable" leader. If you are in charge and know it is happening and you have made no allowances to correct the problem then you need to find other employment that doesn't tax your mentality so much.
There are people who exist in their own little world, that have no pride in anything, that care about nobody and nothing, and their word is worthless. There are getting to be more of these kinds of self important people as time passes and for some reason the selection process continues to promote this undesirable mentality. Dean
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If they hate their job so much then they should quit and let someone else who is broke and jobless have it. Maybe after slinging burgers for a while they might be able to come back in a couple of years and take their old job a bit more seriously. If being a cashier in McDonalds didn't make you go postal then neither should selling stamps or sorting mail in a quiet room.
I can remember a time when a box of chicks or hatching eggs could hypothetically make it from North Eastern Maine to south western California and still be in decent shape. Now days I can get day old chicks from one state away and half the chicks in the box are dead or the hatching eggs have been shaken so badly that only one out of a box full has any chance of hatching. Some past employees of the postal system have even reported on the internet that they saw people throwing boxes marked fragile into bins when they could have walked a couple of steps and sat them down gently. When I read these posts I wondered how many boxes of chicks had been "air mailed" in this manner?
They say the government is busted but the postal system went sour back in the 70s in some areas of the country. It was just about the time that the airlines took the mail delivery contracts away from the railroad that things started going sour and mail was getting lost and damaged a lot more frequently.
I have heard first hand accounts and seen pictures of what was done by postal employees way back then. A group of people were discussing this type of thing at a poultry show and a lady pulled pictures out of her purse that were sent by some of their dissatisfied customers.
She had a picture of a 50 count chick box that was stomped flat on one end and only a few chicks in that end missed being squashed to death. I saw another chick box that evidently had something heavier placed on top of it and almost flattened it. Oddly enough the chicks survived but the post master on the other end sure got a good cussing from the recipient who paid for those chicks and the shipping. When you paid $3.50 per chick back in the 70s you has quite an investment tied up in that small box of chirping fluff balls. In modern inflated currency that would equate out to about $7.50 per chick not counting the postage.
I once shipped Guinea eggs to a man in southern Iowa and got a phone call a few days later informing me that the box had the end busted out and about half of the eggs were smashed. I had trouble swallowing his story because I had shipped his eggs securely in foam padding and in a styrafoam box that was used by pet stores to ship tropical fish. A 180 pound man could stand on one of these boxes and not even make it squeek. To make it short I replaced the order and eventually saw the box by the end of that month when I met up with this man at a swap.
He and I both believe that this box was intentionally stomped by a disgruntled employee. At first we thought the black marks were from a tire but on closer inspection we both came to the conclusion it was from a soft rubber soled shoe or boot.
We hear these sob stories from the post office people that claim they are losing business because people are emailing on the internet and not sending letters through the mail any longer. There are also a lot of people paying their bills via the internet as well. The bill paying caught on real big with some people because it was done in a few minutes and they got a confirmation of payment back by the end of the day. No more lost bills or lost payments because of postal errors.
The truth with the majority of us is that many of the people we chat with or email are people we would never have encountered if there hadn't been an internet.
Also because of these new contacts we are constantly swapping eggs, chicks, and garden seed [just as a few examples]. How do the Postal
people handle this new business we send their way? They break our eggs, kill our chicks, and let their letter sorters tear up the envelopes and rip out the seed packets we placed in those envelopes.
Case in point I sent a check and a few seeds to a gardening friend in Kentucky. He emailed me a few days later to tell me that the check couldn't be cashed because it was ripped up by the letter sorter and the some of the numbers were missing, the letter I sent was legible but chewed up and the seeds were gone. I told him just to mail the envelope and the ripped check back to me and I would send another as soon as it arrived.
Then if things like this aren't bad enough the government is so paranoid of someone who may cause them some type of unknown harm that they run everything through an x-ray machine, that passes through certain counties or larger cities, which is strong enough to sterilize eggs and sterilize or mutate garden seed.
It hasn't been that long ago that the postal system was refusing to ship chicks or other live animals through the postal system. Some of you probably remember when McMurray, Strombergs, Urch, and dozens of other people who shipped chicks had to band together and go argue with these idiots at a big meeting on more than one occasion to retain the right to ship our live animals and birds through the mail.
The win was shallow and in some places the PO has changed the schedules around so that you cannot ship chicks. I know because I live in one of these dead zone areas. I can order and receive them but for some reason can't ship and that makes absolutely no sense at all. I spoke with the lady who runs Schlecht Hatchery in Iowa and she told me that she has to drive their chicks to the airport [rather than the local PO as they once did], so that there will be enough boxes from other hatcheries there that the airline PO system will accept them.
There has been some sort of mental defect that has eaten away at the brain of every system that was designed to make life a lot more simple for all Americans. The government is there to serve, protect, and guarantee our freedoms, and NOT to rule over us like we were a bunch of ignorant school children.
The postal system was created to SERVE the interests of the public and to move approved items and information that are important to the livelihood and well being of the customer and the country in general. As we have all witnessed at one time or another they have seemed to have gone out of their way to do just the opposite.
Marla this total disregard is not only for life but for anything that causes these mentally challenged people any type of aggravation in their daily routine. When the Postal System began to fail us many people went over to Fed Ex to ship their legal mail and fragile items thinking that maybe they would handle our shipments with a lot more care and respect. Then a few days ago we all witnessed a Fed Ex employee who got ticked off and just threw a computer monitor over a security fence and then drove away.
Many of the so called animal rights people try to lay the blame off on the people who hatch and ship but don't have the guts to run head on with the real problem which is the postal system and it's employees. If a shipment of chicks is left on the hot pavement in the summer time, waiting for the next truck to come along and pick them up maybe an hour later, then the person[s] responsible for those chicks setting there in the sun should be fired as well as the whole chain of command all the way up to it's "knowledgable" leader. If you are in charge and know it is happening and you have made no allowances to correct the problem then you need to find other employment that doesn't tax your mentality so much.
There are people who exist in their own little world, that have no pride in anything, that care about nobody and nothing, and their word is worthless. There are getting to be more of these kinds of self important people as time passes and for some reason the selection process continues to promote this undesirable mentality. Dean
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