Hi Sue, I have several poultry books and in them it states unless the chicken is overloaded, with a good diet and healthful conditions, they will build an immunity to worms and their bodies will keep the worm population down. If you do testing for worms and nothing shows with multiple fecals, the bird is not passing worms/eggs, I personally would leave well enough alone. The research is out there. You are right, guess I should look up everything and put a web site with it. I don't always feel like it. But, I never make a medical statement about something unless I have done it or read it, and/or have the resources. People can believe me or not, but there is no need to make derogatory statements.
Because of mixed aged silkies added to my flock and my aging population, I put a drop of ivermectim on each silkie's food, once, sometimes twice a year. I didn't always do this and worms weren't a problem when I didn't.
Vitamin A helps with building immunity and tolerance too; it's fact. I have a collection of books by Dr. Jeff Stromberb, Dr. Schwartz DVM, Gail Damerow, and a few others. It's in the books.
I have never found a worm in one of my chickens I have raised when I did a necropsy or dressed it out. I like to look at the health of the bird's insides, it is fascinating how everything is put together and works. I check the intestines, et... Found another egg in the oviduct when I dressed out a meat bird and put the egg in the incubator. The Science teacher kicks right in when I am dressing out a bird.
(I have seen cecal worms in a chicken that was shipped to me! That was amazing and gross, really gross! I wormed twice during their 3 month quarantine and the worms never came back.)
With a chicken who is not testing positive for worms, that is "really thin in it's keel" for it's breed, feel bone with with only a thin layer of meat, I'd look at subliminal levels of cocci. After I treat for cocci, following the directions exactly, I'd give the bird 3-4 weeks of good quality feed to gain their weight back.
Another common cause of thinness is canker a protozoa, trichomonaisis. When the bird is stressed it can kill pretty quickly. thepoultrysite.com has some good articles/discussions/treatment knowledge in their discussion forum.
It amazes me that people ask for advice and other people's research, then are rude and call names, or make derogatory comments..(re:immunity to pregnancy comment)
I am passionate about poultry, read voraciously, and have an avain vet for back up, and people like you and other members to learn from you too makes it fun.
Cathryn rainbowsilkies MI
From: wildliferescue29 <wildliferescue29@yahoo.com>
To: CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: Skinny hens...update..
Unless there is a chicken scientist lurking on this list, I'd venture to say that none of us are `experts' on the subject of poultry; we all just offer what information/experience we've had. That's what these lists are for, sharing and exchanging info and the reader is left to take it or leave it.
If you question what's been advised, do some research on the subject. There is tons of literature as well as online info about the keeping of birds.
Something to consider when making scientific claims about one thing or another, it's prudent to have a link to researched documentation to site along with your claim to back it up. This makes what you're claiming more credible and if it's important to you that people take your advice, a deal breaker.
Just my opinion ;)
Sue
Wildlife Rescue
If you question what's been advised, do some research on the subject. There is tons of literature as well as online info about the keeping of birds.
Something to consider when making scientific claims about one thing or another, it's prudent to have a link to researched documentation to site along with your claim to back it up. This makes what you're claiming more credible and if it's important to you that people take your advice, a deal breaker.
Just my opinion ;)
Sue
Wildlife Rescue
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