The poultry processers not far from us stun immediately after hanging the up, as they do so. All are killed instantly. I have been allowed to stand and watch. The birds going to crates together WHERE THEY CANNOT TELL WHAT IS GOING ON, when I have to work and cannot wait. Other wise the workers wait to unload them until ready to hang and kill.
Most of the time a friend and I do our own. I do hers and she does mine.
Cathryn rainbowsilkiesTM in Michigan
On Sunday, April 13, 2014 4:38 PM, Deb and Randy Buckler <gotrandy@tcsn.net> wrote:
OK! They are just little grey peeps right now, but I'll try to get some shots. We also have another little hen chick that is part Modern, part Buff Laced Bantam. She is a cutie!
Raising animals en masse for consumption is a delicate subject even in GOOD company. Just like the hybrid chickens that are more docile and don't live very long, we also have 'super beef' like the crazy Belgium Blue. Since we are a mob of meat eaters, the government tries to provide meat for us in a way that makes money for them and we won't squeal about. Just my PERSONAL opinion, but I don't feel like it would be all that bad if they could just come up with a NICE way of raising animals, and then a NICE, gentle way of putting the animal to sleep before it has to even SMELL a slaughter house. All of which is apparently not possible on any scale. Ideally of course, it would be "nice" to not have to slaughter animals at all. Too bad our amazing, all powerful government ( or SOMEone!) can't come up with a yummy meat substitute that was so tasty and so good for you, no one would even WANT to eat flesh.
Deb
----- Original Message -----From: CathrynThereseSent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:34 PMSubject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] chickens are cleverPictures please! Deb, please humor me and post pictures of your lovely chicks and birds, ok?Re: article. I am not against roomy cages that house chickens bred specially to not be dominant and need to be in cages because floor life is too traumatic for them. (Yes, they have been bred and exist now; read the articles about them.) Space, clean food, clean water, room to stretch out, preen each other, lay eggs (hens really do get into laying their eggs), and clean cages are important plus do not raise costs too much. Not all varieties chickens do well on the floor or in pasture. I agree the author needs to go and visit a farm, spend time, get down and dirty, and get to know the birds he is writing about.Cathryn rainbowsilkiesTM in Michigan
On Saturday, April 12, 2014 6:28 PM, Deb and Randy Buckler <gotrandy@tcsn.net> wrote:I'm interested, Cathryn. And not to 'ruffle anyone's feathers', I found the article so irritating, I could hardly finish it. I deal with this mentality all the time. These "egg heads" who have not one OUNCE of common sense let alone any compassion or ability to look into their own soul OR, God FORBID, get out on the ground and get their fricken hands dirty actually learning the TRUTH about the animal they are spouting off on.....oh man. I am glad the awareness is rising for the plight of factory farmed chickens and other animals. Some where, this article will give someone another view of chickens...the dirty rotten bastard scoundrels that they are, barely functioning over the mentality of an amoeba....sigh. There are lots of articles that writer might have referred to, such as the ones documenting a chicken's ability to recognize shapes or recognize up to 100 human faces.I am not religious, but one thing I always appreciated about Jesus. He was able to 'meet people where they 'were'". He could communicate the same message of love and peace to every walk of life. So, keeping that in mind, I try to grant that writer the benefit of the doubt. MAYbe someone who had never heard of the plight of chickens will be waked up for the first time and decide to do something about it on his own.I am not against eating meat. But I am against brutality and cruelty and I try not to be part of it. Yes, we eat organic, free range chicken, raised here in the states. But how do we really KNOW that's what's in that package? And how do we really KNOW what "Certified Humane" really means, especially when giant poultry processors like Foster Farms are putting that on their labels?Ok, ok, I'll stop ranting.And to end on a note of joy, we're having chicks popping out right and left around here! We have Modern Game Bantams, but I also have a Red Shouldered Yokahama hen, and now I have THREE half Modern, half Yokahama chicks! I am really excited about them.Deb Buckler----- Original Message -----From: CathrynThereseSent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 9:40 AMSubject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] chickens are cleverOk, no one is interested. I'll share one I found. Meat chickens Cornish X and Vantress have very short life spans and genetically predisposed to mature at a very early rate.Cathryn rainbowsilkiesTM in Michigan
On Saturday, April 12, 2014 9:03 AM, CathrynTherese <cathryntherese@yahoo.com> wrote:Can you find any falsehoods and or stretched the truth or facts were used in a way to push the anti eating meat can you pick out in this link/ article?I am asking because it's important that I start reading articles with a dose of skepticism and have found myself complacent lately. I am all for food animals raised in cleanliness, with good food, clean water, with room to stretch or lay down, but how much is being pushed using misconceptions?Cathryn rainbowsilkiesTM in Michigan
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