Saturday, September 28, 2013

Re: [CHICKENS-101] housing issue

 

Shannon, Yahoo this morning is missing the reply buttons at the top, to add to all of the other headaches their format has caused!  It is close to the same in Michigan except you need to be on some kind of hand out to get their vote.  They are determined to squish flat everyone who is working and leave them dirt poor with no benefits left.
I've lucked out, the people who bought the home with the apple orchard on the way to my parents have been letting me pick their un sprayed apples.  I've picked thru carefully picking apples good enough to eat out of hand, and carrying them in little buckets to the truck, to fill up my larger buckets. (Will I ever get strong enough to be able to do something with out a hundred extra steps?)  I am hoping today they will let me pull my truck up and fill it full of perfectly good huge apples on the ground that only have a bruise on them.  I'll make apple sauce for me and the rest will go to my silkies. 

 
Cathryn  rainbowsilkiesTM  in  Michigan





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Friday, September 27, 2013

Re: [CHICKENS-101] housing issue

 

Ha--I'd have considerably more cabbages if my little feathered friends hadn't snuck in through the gate (while I was carrying water to the other end of the garden) and nipped off and/or scratched up all my cabbage seedlngs, which were nearest the gate! I had to start completely over with the cabbage, which has made them late. (Did extra turnips last year--but the chickens turned them down. Wouldn't touch them. Ingrates.)

They are having a great time with all the jelly-making leavings, though... My husband's daughter asked me to make little jars of jelly as wedding favors for next year, so lots of pulp for them to pick over--grapes, apples, crab-apples, and the berries earlier. And lots of tomato leavings from canning soup!

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Oh yeah!  I've seen some of them!  My husband had called a trapper he knew to catch whatever was getting our chickens.  He looked the fence over, found some hair, said it was raccoons.
 
The guy came to the door about 5 in the morning, first light, and I thought he had a bear at first, it was that big, and growling like one!  I'd never seen a coon that big!  Had no idea they got that big!  And he got about 4 of them that size as I recall, one a night.  Took them with him, I think he was a fur trapper.
 
Long time ago.  My parents never had any wild animals around like this.  I remember taking them for a ride one Sunday afternoon, on a dirt road up in the hills, very pretty, and there was a wild turkey running down the road in front of us.  My mother got ALL excited, she had never seen one.
 
My husband used to laugh, saying that she thought we lived "on the edge", and wasn't too sure which side of it.  Well, it definitely has become living on the wild side!
 
Laughing!
Diane S.
   
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Diane, The last raccoons we caught were big enough to vote.  I put fencing panels in my windows each evening in addition to the fencing over the outside.

 
Cathryn  rainbowsilkiesTM  in  Michigan


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[CHICKENS-101] Fw: Victory! "Monsanto Protection Act" killed in the Senate

 



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Re: [CHICKENS-101] cat food? (was Molting and wind eggs)

 

Makes perfect sense now.  Thanks for the input.
Linda

On 9/26/2013 9:23 AM, Mark Greer wrote:
 

A chicken is an omnivore (omni, meaning everything) and will eat most anything that doesn't eat it first. If you let some chickens free range and eat what they choose and watch closely for a while you will be amazed. Grass, plants, seeds, baby birds, grain, bugs, worms, fruits, mice, toads, nuts, snakes, eggs & shells, berries, meat off dead animals, garden vegetables, etc. are all on the menu and gobbled up at will. I'm sure I've missed some of the things I've seen my chickens eat but you get the idea. That large feed company that promotes feed "made from natural plant-based ingredients FREE of all animal proteins and fats" is just wrong.
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Re: [CHICKENS-101] housing issue

 


now Cathryn ...... a raccoon big enough to vote ?? i sure hope he don't live in florida ....... that is if he wants to vote cause you gotta have proof you make 200,000  a year just for them to talk to you bout voting .
 
 
Shannon
 
 
 
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Subject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] housing issue

 

Diane, The last raccoons we caught were big enough to vote.  I put fencing panels in my windows each evening in addition to the fencing over the outside.

 
Cathryn  rainbowsilkiesTM  in  Michigan








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Re: [CHICKENS-101] housing issue

 

Diane, The last raccoons we caught were big enough to vote.  I put fencing panels in my windows each evening in addition to the fencing over the outside.

 
Cathryn  rainbowsilkiesTM  in  Michigan






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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:55 PM
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Sorry, guess I didn't read close enough, didn't catch that you have it covered.  Sure, if you have an aviary, that should work just fine!
 
When we first moved here, it was farmland.  My husband built a fine henhouse, and I never worried too much about them.   But we've been here for 50 years and in that time the land has changed dramatically, it's now mostly state and federal forest, and I mean miles of hills covered with mature maple trees where there is very little undergrowth.  We have more forest land than the Adirondacks.  Plus it's hill and valley, so there are lots of creeks.  It's wild.
 
Over time, first there were woodchucks, then possoms, then the raccoons started in on my chickens.  After that came the foxes, and the day a couple of years ago when I heard a fuss and found a long brown fuzzy mink or something in there finishing off the bantams I had in a cage.  And his belly was too full to get back out between the bars.  Shot him on the spot, what a set of teeth!  He got in through the one inch chicken wire over the big window.
 
 Then came the black bears.  After the chicken feed in the metal trash cans, and then ripped one side partly off the chicken coop.  Then they came up on the house porch, to the kitchen screen door.  Then came the Bobcats, and now we have coyotes also.
 
At that point I got 2 bigger dogs that can live outside full time, one a Pyr, a livestock guardian dog, and that did mostly put a stop to it.  But this year people started telling me about the bear at the bottom of my drive, down by the road, and also about the black panther.  Eventually I did see the panther, and sure enuogh that's what it is. I know we've had gold mountain lions around for years, but you seldom see them.  And I hadn't seen any either-----not since I got this Pyr.  She's doing a great job!
 
The barking starts in about 9 or so every night.  Even the skunk seems to be keeping it's distance.  I can smell it, but it doesn't walk by my bedroom window any more.
 
So it all depends on where you are.  I do have a fenced chicken yard, but it's kind of big for a top.  Maybe I should build a cage like yours so I wouldn't have to be so careful about closing them up.  I've thought about it.  You can also get an automatic door closer that runs on a timer or light sensor or something.
 
It's always fun to talk with other people who understand the concept of Fort Chicken.  Everything loves chicken!  There's a reason commercial growers go to all the trouble and expense of keeping these girls inside a building!
 
Diane S. 
 
      
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Subject: RE: [CHICKENS-101] housing issue

 
Thanks everyone for your input, I did leave the door open last night and the girls were very happy to come out when they wanted to.
But… I usually give them greens from the garden when I open the door and today they came out to none, and they let me know in no uncertain terms that this shall not happen again J
Not sure how to break it to them about winter and no greens and all. Oh well.
And as far as counting them, I only have 9, so that is easy, and I check up on them a couple times a day.
But like I was telling someone earlier, the cover of the pen area is 2 layers of hardware cloth, and even the local sparrows can't get in J
Cheers
~Dr.Doug



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