Tuesday, November 29, 2011

[CHICKENS-101] Re: Guineas In My Henhouse

 

While my guineas are loud and obnoxious I dont think they are as bad as those that dont live with chickens.. they squawk at silly things ( like when the wad of plastic bags floated in the yard... omg! they surrounded it at sqauwked it into submission!)

but they roost with the chickens and come in at night (so far at least) and do more soft "chirping" all day than squawking...

I think since they were raised together and the chickens outnumber them, they just adopted more of their habits than their own.. if that makes sense..

Lisa
SCentral WI

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> I honestly have no idea, Sue, LOL! This property has always seemed to hold happy peaceful life on it ever since I bought & built my house & little hobby farm on it......I see that evidence more & more especially at times when I look out and see wild whitetail deer grazing in it's pastures right along with my horses. I will always

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[CHICKENS-101] Re: Guineas In My Henhouse

 

I had an awful time with my guineas and went to the Guinea Forum for advice. Seems that males in number larger than the guinea females will take to attacking the chickens. I had four males, couldn't find any females (unless I wanted to chance another set of chicks). I was also told that if I caged them for awhile their hormones would settle (they were a year old). They were in a run with the chickens for 4 months. Every time I turned them out, whether it be one or four they attacked the hens. I made the mistake of turning all four out the first time and they immediately ganged up on a young hen. BTW, they all had access to free range, but the guineas never left the yard except to pound around on the roof.

In the end I got rid of them. Now, I don't know if the disturbance you are having = egg production drop, tis that time of year for less.

Good luck!

Renee
S CA

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[CHICKENS-101] Re: Guineas In My Henhouse

 

If that all makes any sense to anyone, I should add <G>

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[CHICKENS-101] Re: Guineas In My Henhouse

 

I honestly have no idea, Sue, LOL!  This property has always seemed to hold happy peaceful life on it ever since I bought & built my house & little hobby farm on it......I see that evidence more & more especially at times when I look out and see wild whitetail deer grazing in it's pastures right along with my horses.  I will always uphold it's being that way (it's an awesome feeling to see & be a part of!) :-).   Don't know if it makes a difference that I treat & regard all life forms as equal and always will - will shoo off a critter that might seem preditory before taking out a gun & just automatically killing it, and for some reason they never do come back again.  LOL, people freak out at watching a hawk circling above actually "listen" to me when I tell it to go & keep going to better "hunting grounds" for it and leave this one alone, and it does, whether it was eyeballing up my chickens or just some small mice or other ground creatures here.
 
  The *only* time my Guineas "freak out" & get noisy at all is if something out of the every day ordinary happens - otherwise you don't even know they're here (except for the females' occasional poo-tawk'ing sounds).  I was told that's the way they'd be, and that has rang very true.  LOL, I've watched them out freeranging with the chickens in the pastures when a stray cat has wandering in - cat must come around (unharmfully) a bit more than I know, because the Guineas never sounded an alert to it's being there, but, LOL - when it would meander a bit too close (whatever "too close" is to Guineas, <G>) to where they & the chickens were "grazing", there'd be 3 or 4 of the Guineas silently "waddle"-running it back off a few feet again.   Sometimes I wish they wouldn't 'cause it certainly wouldn't hurt to have a good mousing barn-cat here, but I guess the Guineas will "choose" the right one at the right time for that, LOL.  For now, they make halfway decent mousers themselves.......people think they're stupid animals, but I've watched them know where a mouse is going to come into the coop (and when, for that matter - when I feed! <G>) and a couple of them will be standing just watching for it to instead of coming over to eat right away.  And it's hysterical to watch the ensuing game of "tag" (I want it too!!!) that happens when they do catch one!!  :-)
 
  I guess observing, respecting, and allowing all the different forms of lives in your life instead of trying to mentally human-conform them to what *you* want & expect them to be is what makes the difference.  Animals are the survivalists of the world, humans aren't.  Animals accept & adapt to changes to live - only humans deny & try to force changes to be what *they* want.
                                                       Kate in WI
 
 
 
 
 
<< Posted by: "wildliferescue29" wildliferescue29@yahoo.com wildliferescue29

Hi Kate
This is impressive indeed. I too have had guineas for years but in spite of a large chicken house with plenty of room, when locked up with the chickens, there's ALWAYS trouble.

Guineas are so flighty and will freak out and commence to screeching if a mosquito flys by, this makes the other birds nervous not to mention the dust storms they create with their dashing about like crack heads.

What's your secret?!

Sue
WLR
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[CHICKENS-101] Re: snails, worms, and parasites

 

Hi Rebecca: All chickens have parasites, those that free range have free range parasites including one or more of the 3,452 varieties of worms. Not all parasites are bad, in fact some are necessary for the health of the bird. Other than seeing them either in droppings or around the vent the main symptom of the seriously bad kind is a dead chicken. Worming should be used as disaster relief IMHO, not for every day use.
Ol' George
"I won't say I'm out of condition, but I even puff going down stairs"

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> this has been very informative. SO my next question is other than runny poops, how do you tell that they may have worms or have early symptoms of parasites? just assuming that since there are snails about they are going to have problems may be medicating before they're actually having an issue. This might be preemptive or it might be creating a worm that is resistant to the suppliments. Reasonable? I appreciate your thoughts.
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Monday, November 28, 2011

RE: [CHICKENS-101] Ivermectin

 



> Thank you, I use ivermectin for cattle for heartworm prevention, for six
dogs.

just FYI, the info that was posted about mixing it into drinking water is
not accurate. the 1 % injectiable ivermectin sold for cattle does not
dissolve in water. It can only be dissolved in propylene glycol. I know the
water based solution advice is posted all over the place, but it is
incorrect. If you want to mix ivermectin with water, you can use the sheep
drench, but it's not a 1 % solution, there is an Australian outlet that
sells the 1% oral ivermectin for horses that is also water soluable.

as far as dogs and the injectable ivermectin goes, most of the information
on the internet on that gives you directions on how much to use for
deworming livestock, if you want to use an amount comparable to what the
heartworm pills are sold by vets, you can't measure it accurately with a
syringe as the amount is so small

1 ml of the 1 % ivermectin is 10.000 mcg, a heartworm pill for a 100 lbs
dog is less than 300 mcg
0.1 ml of the 1% ivermectin is 1.000 mcg so for a 100 lbs dog it would be
less than 0.03 ml, you would have to dilute it with propylene glycol to
measure the dose accurately

Marlene, Nevada, USA
www.Anatolians-of-Zaltana.com
Blog: http://zaltanaanatolians.blogspot.com/ and
http://zaltanachickens.blogspot.com/

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RE: [CHICKENS-101] Thank you and advice about sneezing

 



Kristen,

> Perhaps this lack of fresh air is causing this hen to sneeze?

first of all, good to hear your Sussex is okay, yay. I would suggest to
have a couple other antibiotics on hand, just in case, tetracycline and
tylan maybe, that way if the Sulmet fails, you have other options.
As far as the sneezing goes, yes lack of ventilation can cause respiratory
problems, but at the same time she may have an infection. Mycoplasmosis is
rather common and can cause respiratory symptoms, since your Sussex was
just sick, there is a chance your other hen has a problem too, just
different symptoms.

Marlene, Nevada, USA
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