Wednesday, April 30, 2014

Re: [CHICKENS-101] pelletized bedding follow-up

 

With a good 6-7 inch layer of fluffy bedding, with non slip barn lime underneath, on a concrete floor, no one gets cold. I snow plow my way to my barns and snow blow paths where needed.  When it is icy, the salter for the tavern is put into use.  Falling is avoided at all costs and sometimes I drive right to the doors. 
For awhile the drifts and snow plow drifts were up over the top of my pick up in height.
 
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On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:23 PM, DianeStraight <straight6@earthlink.net> wrote:
 
Depends on how much snow, ice and slush you have to slog through to just to get there, often in the dark, and the temperature.  Around zero it's better not to leave the door open that long, or even disturb them very much.
 
Besides, on bare floor or a thin layer, in the winter the chicken droppings freeze into concrete lumps, hard to walk on and impossible to move.  A layer of "stuff" half a foot deep stays loose as they keep it scratched up, and is a decent cushion for them to walk on, up off the freezing floor.  
 
Climate and housing make a big difference in simply what is possible for at least a portion of the year.  Life inside a big barn can be quite a bit different.
 
Looks like a lot of people had an involuntary barn cleaning this week, due to the weather.
 
Diane S.
southwest NYS, still raining but just a steady drizzle
   
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I find the deep litter method actually much harder to deal with than the
thin layers and cleaning it all up after a couple or three weeks. JMHO,
from past experiences.

Anita B., SW Ohio


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Re: [CHICKENS-101] pelletized bedding follow-up

 

Depends on how much snow, ice and slush you have to slog through to just to get there, often in the dark, and the temperature.  Around zero it's better not to leave the door open that long, or even disturb them very much.
 
Besides, on bare floor or a thin layer, in the winter the chicken droppings freeze into concrete lumps, hard to walk on and impossible to move.  A layer of "stuff" half a foot deep stays loose as they keep it scratched up, and is a decent cushion for them to walk on, up off the freezing floor.  
 
Climate and housing make a big difference in simply what is possible for at least a portion of the year.  Life inside a big barn can be quite a bit different.
 
Looks like a lot of people had an involuntary barn cleaning this week, due to the weather.
 
Diane S.
southwest NYS, still raining but just a steady drizzle
   
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I find the deep litter method actually much harder to deal with than the
thin layers and cleaning it all up after a couple or three weeks. JMHO,
from past experiences.

Anita B., SW Ohio



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Re: [CHICKENS-101] pelletized bedding follow-up

 

I find the deep litter method actually much harder to deal with than the
thin layers and cleaning it all up after a couple or three weeks. JMHO,
from past experiences.

Anita B., SW Ohio

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Re: [CHICKENS-101] Fwd: [Pigeon_Bratt] interesting idea from F/Book (poultry feeder

 

As long as the feed is in a place where it stays dry and is used up in a timely manner, it'd work.  My white rocks would bill it out and get a foot in no matter the height.  
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On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 1:16 PM, Dale Clark <redbird.dale@gmail.com> wrote:
 


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Great idea.


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[CHICKENS-101] genetic study of black chickens - rapid evolution in domestic animals

 

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Re: [CHICKENS-101] pelletized bedding follow-up

 

I don't care for the deep litter system either. It may work but I like a clean loft. I always tell people to try different things and use whatever works for them.
Dale


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 3:49 PM, CathrynTherese <cathryntherese@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

I do not use the deep litter because I'd end up with a thick layer of poopy bedding.  Even though new bedding is added, the chickens mix it up.  Much prefer to clean it out as it gets dirty.  My bedding does not end up piled in the corners, there is 6-7 inches down in each pen, in each barn.  
It's time to clean again, get the old stuff out, on the gardens and in the compost pit.  Can't plant for a month, with all of the spring rain, that is long enough for the bedding to not be too hot.
Cathryn  rainbowsilkiesTM  in  Michigan

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Re: [CHICKENS-101] more chicken genetics

 

"water in the middle of the barns,"  < outside
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On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:14 AM, CathrynTherese <cathryntherese@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
I'd never spray anything in my barns either, I have to work hard at keeping everything dry.  The colder it is out the harder I have to work at it and ran a heater off and on to keep things dry in the negative temps.  Have had chickens since I was a little kid, have an 1800's built barn for 1,000 egg layers I remodeled with water,  7 room cattle barn with water - I use two roomsand a feed room, water in the middle of the barns, 2 smaller wood/wood floor barns, small wood coop, cedar coop, another small wood coop, and supply shed with metal cabinets, and loft.  All have extra large pens along both or one side, or the coops are inside the of the pens. All pens at the least double, most tripled/ quadrupled fenced roofs, sides, and buried fencing.  Then there is...
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On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:11 AM, DianeStraight <straight6@earthlink.net> wrote:
 
It is fascinating!
But I'm going to have to read it tomorrow.  It's 1 a.m. already.
 
Where are you, anyway?  It makes a difference.
I'm in southwest NYS, where we have long, cold, hard winters with deep snow.  And late springs, like this year.  Froze again last night.  Rained again today.
 
It rains in the spring and fall, snows all winter, and in the summer it's humid.  We do have lots of water.  But I wouldn't think of spraying water to break down pellets, something like that.  Keeping the coop dry is more of a problem because chickens give off so much moisture.  I leave the windows open year round, except maybe when it gets down below zero for very long and there's wind.
 
In my 70's, had chickens all my life, my parents raised chickens, my grandparents raised chickens, etc.  It's not a novelty, and I probably am a lot more relaxed about taking care of them than some people.  They don't seem to get sick.  Only real problems I usually have are predators and leg mites and sometimes a frozen comb.  Rosecombs do away with that problem.
 
I just keep a bag of the pine shavings on hand, dump in another one when I think it needs it.  Try to clean it out once a year.  I go in there barefoot, it's soft, dry and loose.  They keep it scratched up, mixed up, dried out all the way to the floor.
 
I used to use feeders and measure it out.  Getting old I guess, I just carry the 50 lb. bags in and lean them against the wall.  Open one, tip it over and let them have at it.  Seems to be working pretty well.  It's just a hobby.
 
I have a regular wooden henhouse, like a room or small barn.  Nothing fancy, been there 40 years, looks fine, big window facing south, sun comes in nicely in the winter, trees shade it in the summer.  I let them outside in the large fenced in pen in good weather.  When they can get out, they ignore the pellet feed completely.
 
Got a second, smaller box and cage for young ones.
I've tried a lot of breeds over the years.  Some successes, some failures, some not as described.  Being able to order a few of these and a few of those is great fun, and quite an education!
 
You have pigeons too?  I raised them for a while.  They seemed to have a lot of ailments.  There are so many interesting kinds!  I had white Indian Fantails, and white Homing pigeons, colored Fantails, American Fans, and a friend with roller pigeons and the ones with curls on their backs.  And the ones with a ruff on their neck that covers their heads.  All are great fun!  And English Messenger pigeons are a lot bigger than you expect.  American Fans bully the Indian Fans terribly, and so many people develop lung ailments from cleaning the droppings that I decided I didn't want to get that problem.  Chickens make enough dust as it is.
 
Diane S.          
 
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Forgot my books at school; hope you enjoy some of the articles I found and am sharing with you. Think I am more wide awake from reading on line than if I had picked up a magazine or book. :)
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