Monday, April 30, 2012

[CHICKENS-101] Re: Guardian of Livestock..help

 

The secret of Free Range is to have a lot of chickens and provide cover. If you start with 100 chickens and the fox takes a dozen and hawks get another dozen then half of them die of fright you will end up with 40 plus or minus, half of which will be roosters that you will have to put in the freezer, leaving with 20 hens.
Seriously "free range" is a great idea but not always practical.
Ol' George

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> I have had a small flock of chickens for the past three years , and do enjoy having chickens. I must say, the past three years have been a challenge keeping the chickens safe from predactors. I have a safe coop , that keeps them secure at night . At the moment , the chickens are contained in a rather large run with a chicken coop. I want to let my chickens become free range ( we have several acres in the country). I gave it a try ,and experienced an ariel attack from large flying prey and a neighborhood loose dog attack and now I am down two birds . I was wondering if anyone has been successful with a life stock guardian breed dog to protect their chickens ( Great Pyrenees , ect) ? Or any suggestion on having free range chickens?
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> Sandy
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[CHICKENS-101] OT our newest addition [1 Attachment]

 
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Just wanted to share. Marcia and I do animal rescue. Last week we where called and asked to take in a registered pinto horse. She was delivered yesterday. She's 14 1/2 hands high and 14yrs old. She's broke but needs a lot of work. The woman who gave her to us had her from a colt. Then a few years ago sold her to a couple down the road. They abused her. To the point they had her tied by a dog chain around her neck and tied to a tree. And she was about 300 lbs down. She still needs about 200 pounds to get her to a saddle weight.
A neighbor who breaks horses stopped by today and he's willing to come over and work with her for us.
She needs a lot of TLC to get her to trust people again.
Jeannette

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RE: [CHICKENS-101] Half-assed idea?

 

Depends on the hen.  I once bought some chicks and when I put them in the coop, a hen cooed or clucked, lifted herself up and the chicks ran under her and she sat back down.  She went from having a few chicks to having a lot. 

I’ve also had hens peck the chicks to death.

Charles

 

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Hi All,
I have day-old chicks arriving this week just as a black Cochin hen may be going broody. She's been lounging in the nest box most of the day, certainly long enough that all of the other hens just lay their eggs outside of the box and leave. She does leave the nest box to eat or if something strikes her fancy. I can reach under her for eggs, but she's not thrilled.

Has anyone had any luck placing chicks with a surrogate hen to raise?

If she's game, I'd love to let the Cochin hen keep the chicks warm instead of using a pen and heat lamp. How does one introduce chicks to a broody hen? Approx. how many chicks can a hen take care of? I realize that feather-footed breeds are not ideal since they can more easily step on chicks. There are four Ameracauna and four Danish Brown Leghorn, plus six Nankin bantams in the bunch. I think that the Nankins will be too small and will get smushed, so I plan to raise then in a pen under a light regardless. Would it be smarter to just raise all the chicks in the pen together?

The current coop is outside, it's enclosed inside a cyclone fence. It's 8'x4'x3' raised 2 feet off the floor, with wood on three sides, and screened with 1/2 inch hardware cloth on the fourth. There's a screen floor but I can put down a board to block the cold, and a thick layer of hay/pine shavings/dirt over the board. I'm in So. Cal. so it's been in the 50s at night and 70s during the day. I know that the little ones need to be kept warm and I'm guessing that the hen would do a good enough job keeping them warm? Would it be better to bring them all in where the temps are a little warmer and there's no breeze? I'd separate the other hens from the Cochin and the chicks.

Anything else I need to be aware of?
LQ in L.A.

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Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: Eating Their Own Eggs!

 


I feed mine lots of treats - lettuce, bananas, tomatoes, corn on the cob,etc. No more egg-snatching

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>Something we have had luck with here to actually stop egg eating is putting ceramic and wooden eggs in the box. For hours the hens pecked and pecked with no satisfaction. After a few days of this they quit eating eggs.
>Good luck

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[CHICKENS-101] Half-assed idea?

 

Hi All,
I have day-old chicks arriving this week just as a black Cochin hen may be going broody. She's been lounging in the nest box most of the day, certainly long enough that all of the other hens just lay their eggs outside of the box and leave. She does leave the nest box to eat or if something strikes her fancy. I can reach under her for eggs, but she's not thrilled.

Has anyone had any luck placing chicks with a surrogate hen to raise?

If she's game, I'd love to let the Cochin hen keep the chicks warm instead of using a pen and heat lamp. How does one introduce chicks to a broody hen? Approx. how many chicks can a hen take care of? I realize that feather-footed breeds are not ideal since they can more easily step on chicks. There are four Ameracauna and four Danish Brown Leghorn, plus six Nankin bantams in the bunch. I think that the Nankins will be too small and will get smushed, so I plan to raise then in a pen under a light regardless. Would it be smarter to just raise all the chicks in the pen together?

The current coop is outside, it's enclosed inside a cyclone fence. It's 8'x4'x3' raised 2 feet off the floor, with wood on three sides, and screened with 1/2 inch hardware cloth on the fourth. There's a screen floor but I can put down a board to block the cold, and a thick layer of hay/pine shavings/dirt over the board. I'm in So. Cal. so it's been in the 50s at night and 70s during the day. I know that the little ones need to be kept warm and I'm guessing that the hen would do a good enough job keeping them warm? Would it be better to bring them all in where the temps are a little warmer and there's no breeze? I'd separate the other hens from the Cochin and the chicks.

Anything else I need to be aware of?
LQ in L.A.

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[CHICKENS-101] curly toe?

 

Well, I picked up the chicks today and one of them has a curled toe.
I tried a boot with a piece of cardboard and piece of bandaid.....she kicked/pecked it off. Then, I tried a splint with a piece of band aid and a piece of match stick....as I read online.
Any other suggestions? How long do I need to keep the splint on?

Thanks!

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[CHICKENS-101] Meat Quality Grades

 

Meat Quality Grades


Quality grade names and factors considered for grade determination vary among kinds of meat. Even within the same species grading may differ 

Complete Article
 
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Re: [CHICKENS-101] Guardian of Livestock..help

 

One thing to remember is to get a young pup and introduce them early. A lgd needs to bond with whatever you get make sure it suits your needs as size and activity for your place. Like great pyrenesse have a tendency to wonder. That's why we don't use them any more. Some breeds bark more. So if you have neighbors they may complain. If you have a smaller flock and a smaller area where they are at you may want to consider a smaller breed dog. Also many breeds can be used for lgd. You don't have to have a gp or border collie or anitolian if they don't suit your need.
Jeannette

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Subject: [CHICKENS-101] Guardian of Livestock..help

 

I have had a small flock of chickens for the past three years , and do enjoy having chickens. I must say, the past three years have been a challenge keeping the chickens safe from predactors. I have a safe coop , that keeps them secure at night . At the moment , the chickens are contained in a rather large run with a chicken coop. I want to let my chickens become free range ( we have several acres in the country). I gave it a try ,and experienced an ariel attack from large flying prey and a neighborhood loose dog attack and now I am down two birds . I was wondering if anyone has been successful with a life stock guardian breed dog to protect their chickens ( Great Pyrenees , ect) ? Or any suggestion on having free range chickens?

Sandy

Alabama

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RE: [CHICKENS-101] Re: blog update

 

The process for complaining directly to blogspot is lengthy and complicated.

Gary F

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Try complaining the the blog owners host provider. Tell them that they are stealing your content. That may just work. I'll get the name and email of the host provider and we can complain.

Gary

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RE: [CHICKENS-101] Re: blog update

 

Shirley,

This is most likely a subscribed member has automated their email
subscription to post to the site directly. They are mostly likely using the
blog to sell advertisement. They are breaking copyright law, unless they
own the group. They are also committing fraud by using copyrighted work to
sell advertisement. All of this is true, unless they actually own the
group. I think someone has posted the yahoo group rule they are breaking
which is another matter.

Gary F

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I lurk a lot, but am wondering if this is some sort of automatic feed to
that blog. I'm wondering if whoever set it up is no longer even doing
anything with it. Does anyone actually visit the blog except people from our
group. Maybe if one day a week all anyone posted was that the blog was
pirating the content of the group & the copyright blurb it would help. At
least if others are visiting that blog they would see what was going on.
I've never seen any blog like this before.

hugs
Shirley in Indiana

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Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: [OT] Quail Questions

 

Hi Chickens-101ers, and thanks for the quail info.

The quail nest now has 10 (or so) eggs in it. Today, for the first time, a bobwhite hen is sitting on the eggs. The nest is conveniently built in the corner of a dog crate inside the coop. If she stays, I guess I'll close her into the cage with food and water? I was going to close in the pair so that the hen wouldn't be alone—he's been aggressive about protcting the nest, but I guess that's not necessary? Later, I'll need to do something to keep the chicks inside the cage, if any hatch. Is it 23 days from the lay date or the incubation date? I keep thinking of Cathryn and the popcorn metaphor. :

Thanks!
Laura

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Dean, My quail laid and sat, but the males need to be removed in pen situations, at least from my experience.  Personally, I found the incubator and handling/imprinting the quail a much more fun experience.

Cathryn rainbowsilkies™  MI

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RE: [CHICKENS-101] Re: blog update

 

They are also violating copyright laws.

Gary Fletcher

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What if we all go to the site and complain? Hundreds and hundreds of us? There are thousands and thousands of members.

Cathryn rainbowsilkiesTM Michigan

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Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: blog update

 

What if we all go to the site and complain?  Hundreds and hundreds of us?  There are thousands and thousands of members.
 
Cathryn rainbowsilkiesTM  Michigan

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This is the rule they are breaking
from Yahoo TOS:
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You agree not to reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, trade, resell or exploit for any commercial purposes, any portion or use of, or access to, the Yahoo! Services (including Content, advertisements, Software and your Yahoo! ID).

http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/utos-173.html


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[CHICKENS-101] Releaseing the babies

 

Our 5 "babies" are 8 weeks old today. They have been in the coop with the other chickens for about 4 weeks now. While in the coop they were in a large dog crate. So they were well protected. What and how is a good way to "release" them from the crate, into the coop, with the other 8 hens? We do not have a rooster.

Thanks in advance
Rita

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[CHICKENS-101] Guardian of Livestock..help

 

I have had a small flock of chickens for the past three years , and do enjoy having chickens. I must say, the past three years have been a challenge keeping the chickens safe from predactors. I have a safe coop , that keeps them secure at night . At the moment , the chickens are contained in a rather large run with a chicken coop. I want to let my chickens become free range ( we have several acres in the country). I gave it a try ,and experienced an ariel attack from large flying prey and a neighborhood loose dog attack and now I am down two birds . I was wondering if anyone has been successful with a life stock guardian breed dog to protect their chickens ( Great Pyrenees , ect) ? Or any suggestion on having free range chickens?

Sandy

Alabama

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