From what I just read online, it may be that she has a small canker in her crop. I also have sick chickens in the coop (it's been brutally cold here this winter they are stressed)... respiratory issues -- sneezing and a couple have bubbly eyes once in a while. For over a year, I've thought that my occasional sick chicken was due to mg in my flock and since I will not get anymore chickens I have not culled anyone. But on Sunday when I removed my crop bound/sour crop hen, I did start giving everyone tetroxy in their water as well as vitamins. The two who had bubbly eyes the other day are also getting some Tylan. (they are not bubbly anymore).
But now that I read about canker I'm wondering if that's what the whole flock has had this whole time. The roo has been sick off and on for over a year, as well as that other hen. I will look in his beak again; I did notice it looked different the other day, like he had a 'lower' 'roof' in his mouth, like a flat beige growth of some sort. So thank you Cathryn -- maybe canker has been my problem this whole time.
I will try to get this flock thru the winter and enjoy warmer weather and then come fall, I've already decided to cull everyone. Not sure how yet.. my husband usually takes his bird gun out when I have a suffering chicken.... I can't go thru another wicked winter like this one, hauling water and caring for old chickens this much! Just gotta get my head around that reality and allow my children to understand why another winter of subzero temps would not be fun for these gals and guy... even if they do get warm water several times a day, treats, and a 100W light bulb at night.
So, now... what to do about my favorite hen? oh boy... so many treatment options according to what I've read but of course I have none of the meds suggested here and we live out in the boonies.
Here's a comprehensive site about canker http://forum.backyardpoultry.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8024927
And here's an excerpt:
COPPER SULFATE MEDICATION - HOW TO MAKE UP
It is also a good preventative medication for Canker and Sour crop
Used for treatment of: Canker, Roup, Trichomoniasis, Mold infection of the crop (Mycosis), Thrush, Candidiasis, Moniliasis, Sour crop
If you have a bird that is suffering from what you think is a crop impaction, then more than likely she also will have one of the above problems, the crop impaction symptoms could have been caused by a small canker in the crop this then causes a chain reaction of food rolling into a ball in the crop and the impaction occurs, in some cases what seems like crop impaction is the canker on the outlet to the gizzard stopping anything from passing throug. You end up with a mushy crop.
Use the solution as a "follow-up" treatment after flushing with Epsom salt solution.
Epsom Salt Solution:
0.45 kg (1 lb) Epsom salt per 7 kg (15 lb) feed
-or-
0.45 kg (1 lb) Epsom salt per 23 litres (5 gallons) water for 1 day
Give the Epson salt feed mixture as the sole feed source for a one-day period.
This feed can be used only if the birds are eating.
If the birds are not eating, use the water solution.
If the birds are unable to eat or drink by themselves, use individual treatment with:
1 teaspoon of Epsom salt in 30 ml of water (1 fl oz water)
See crop tube and Insertion below - on how to administer this solution. Do not just pour it down the bird's throat!
Copper Sulfate Medication:
Use 1 gm (0.035 oz) of Copper sulfate (bluestone) to 2 litres (3.52 pints) of water – be very careful about the measurements of the Copper sulfate too much will kill your bird
Add 2 teaspoons of Apple Cider Vinegar.
Mix in some Cranberry Juice to make it more palatable for the birds to drink and disguise the taste of the Copper sulfate and vinegar.
Give this medicated water as the sole source of drinking water for 4 to 7 days, in some cases you may need to extend this time until you feel that the disease outbreak is over.
Do not use metal containers only plastic ones.
Put the mixture out fresh each day.
If you choose not to use the Copper sulfate you can use
1. Nystatin at 220 ppm in the feed - for fungal infections
2. Carnidazole (Spartrix) pills for 5 days - for bacterial infections
3. Metronidazole (Flagyl) injections or pills for 5 to 7 days - for bacterial infections
If you are unsure if your bird has a fungal or bacterial infection of her crop then give both medications at the same time with a broad spectrum antibiotic such as Tylan soluble.
--- In CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com, CathrynTherese wrote:
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> Something is blocking her crop; it could be an object, tumor, or canker a protozoa. If you are going to spend money on nystatin I'd have her crop looked at by the vet. Canker is yellowish and can form solid masses; not saying it is canker but her symptoms match it. I learned back when I bought chickens with canker for breeding, treated, kept them quarantined in breeding cages, so I could hatch from them.
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> Cathryn rainbowsilkiesTM in Michigan
But now that I read about canker I'm wondering if that's what the whole flock has had this whole time. The roo has been sick off and on for over a year, as well as that other hen. I will look in his beak again; I did notice it looked different the other day, like he had a 'lower' 'roof' in his mouth, like a flat beige growth of some sort. So thank you Cathryn -- maybe canker has been my problem this whole time.
I will try to get this flock thru the winter and enjoy warmer weather and then come fall, I've already decided to cull everyone. Not sure how yet.. my husband usually takes his bird gun out when I have a suffering chicken.... I can't go thru another wicked winter like this one, hauling water and caring for old chickens this much! Just gotta get my head around that reality and allow my children to understand why another winter of subzero temps would not be fun for these gals and guy... even if they do get warm water several times a day, treats, and a 100W light bulb at night.
So, now... what to do about my favorite hen? oh boy... so many treatment options according to what I've read but of course I have none of the meds suggested here and we live out in the boonies.
Here's a comprehensive site about canker http://forum.backyardpoultry.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8024927
And here's an excerpt:
COPPER SULFATE MEDICATION - HOW TO MAKE UP
It is also a good preventative medication for Canker and Sour crop
Used for treatment of: Canker, Roup, Trichomoniasis, Mold infection of the crop (Mycosis), Thrush, Candidiasis, Moniliasis, Sour crop
If you have a bird that is suffering from what you think is a crop impaction, then more than likely she also will have one of the above problems, the crop impaction symptoms could have been caused by a small canker in the crop this then causes a chain reaction of food rolling into a ball in the crop and the impaction occurs, in some cases what seems like crop impaction is the canker on the outlet to the gizzard stopping anything from passing throug. You end up with a mushy crop.
Use the solution as a "follow-up" treatment after flushing with Epsom salt solution.
Epsom Salt Solution:
0.45 kg (1 lb) Epsom salt per 7 kg (15 lb) feed
-or-
0.45 kg (1 lb) Epsom salt per 23 litres (5 gallons) water for 1 day
Give the Epson salt feed mixture as the sole feed source for a one-day period.
This feed can be used only if the birds are eating.
If the birds are not eating, use the water solution.
If the birds are unable to eat or drink by themselves, use individual treatment with:
1 teaspoon of Epsom salt in 30 ml of water (1 fl oz water)
See crop tube and Insertion below - on how to administer this solution. Do not just pour it down the bird's throat!
Copper Sulfate Medication:
Use 1 gm (0.035 oz) of Copper sulfate (bluestone) to 2 litres (3.52 pints) of water – be very careful about the measurements of the Copper sulfate too much will kill your bird
Add 2 teaspoons of Apple Cider Vinegar.
Mix in some Cranberry Juice to make it more palatable for the birds to drink and disguise the taste of the Copper sulfate and vinegar.
Give this medicated water as the sole source of drinking water for 4 to 7 days, in some cases you may need to extend this time until you feel that the disease outbreak is over.
Do not use metal containers only plastic ones.
Put the mixture out fresh each day.
If you choose not to use the Copper sulfate you can use
1. Nystatin at 220 ppm in the feed - for fungal infections
2. Carnidazole (Spartrix) pills for 5 days - for bacterial infections
3. Metronidazole (Flagyl) injections or pills for 5 to 7 days - for bacterial infections
If you are unsure if your bird has a fungal or bacterial infection of her crop then give both medications at the same time with a broad spectrum antibiotic such as Tylan soluble.
--- In CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com, CathrynTherese wrote:
>
> Something is blocking her crop; it could be an object, tumor, or canker a protozoa. If you are going to spend money on nystatin I'd have her crop looked at by the vet. Canker is yellowish and can form solid masses; not saying it is canker but her symptoms match it. I learned back when I bought chickens with canker for breeding, treated, kept them quarantined in breeding cages, so I could hatch from them.
>
>
> Â
> Cathryn rainbowsilkiesTM in Michigan
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