Thanks for that Di.. It took me back to my high school days, way back in the '50s and '60s. Things were really different then! Discipline was enforced a lot more strenuously. At least where I went to high school.
Eric
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>
> I agree with your assessment totally, but put somewhat more blame on the
> parents who - from birth - did not feed their children properly or discipline
> them adequately. There are too many parents who are not adults
> themselves, too many parents who view parenthood as a part time activity, too many
> parents who want to be their kids' best friends, too many parents whose own
> ego and aspirations are on their children's shoulders so that they can't
> imagine their child is not perfect and won't allow them to be disciplined.
>
> Too much emphasis on Dr. Spock (who RUINED parenthood and wasn't even very
> good at it himself!) and self esteem experts' advice. They should all be
> sentenced to life in one of today's classrooms so they can see what their
> "sage advice" has created.
>
> The educational system is to blame because they have listened to the
> government and the lawyers rather than the educators. Too many unfunded
> mandates, paperwork, and limitations from the government. School boards and
> administrations who listen to lawyers first and teachers not at all. Too many
> administrators and too few teachers, thanks to administrators tending to think
> they need more of "them" and less guff from teachers, and too much
> government interference and paperwork causing a need for more useless
> administrators.
>
> My 2 kids aren't perfect, Lord knows, and have gotten into their share of
> trouble - although unruliness at school or anywhere else was NEVER part of
> their crimes. Coming from a family of educators, they KNOW how to behave in
> school and can understand the disruption other students cause. When my
> daughter was a freshman in high school her English teacher was a first-year
> teacher who never even made it to the semester break. He had no control on the
> class, was completely out of his depth (and got no help from the
> administrators - it was sink or swim). When Judy went to the front of the class to
> give an oral report one day, the kids kept talking and messing around,
> paying no attention to her. She slammed a textbook down on the teacher's desk
> and pronounced, "You may get away with this kind of behavior when Mr. X is up
> here, but you're NOT going to act like this in front of me. SIT DOWN, SHUT
> UP, and show a little respect for me and for yourselves. Your are HUMAN
> BEINGS not ANIMALS. I'll wait until you can get it together." She did and
> they did, and when she was done she told them, "You should be this polite to
> Mr. X, too. It wouldn't kill you."
>
> I have always been surprised that she made it through high school without
> someone decking her. A couple of kids threatened to, but her response of "Do
> you know the meaning of lawsuit? I wouldn't mind owning your daddy's car."
> dissuaded them.
>
> My son, on the other hand, had to deal with his father being one of the
> principals of his high school, and luckily he was very laid back about it.
> "Your dad's as A***ole!)" To which he's shrug, smile, and say, "Yeah, I know.
> Nothing I can do about it. I've got no power here. Sorry about that." And
> go whistling on his way without a care in the world.
>
> Di
> Central Florida Zone 9a/b
>
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