Tuesday, August 31, 2010

RE: [CHICKENS-101] BARF.........including chicken!

 

 
 
>            Well, we are new to this and the estimated amount to feed is 2-4% of their body weight��.so each 100 lb dog is getting 2 to 2.5 lbs daily.  One has maintained his weight and he is the one I want to keep very lean due to the HOD. 
 
was that the one you asked about a while back? Can you please update me on how he does on the current diet? Has he gotten any better? I don't remember the details, you can e-mail me privately if you wish
 

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Re: [CHICKENS-101] ot ducks

 

She won't fight you for the eggs :-) They might have a better chance
if you do .... what is the worst would be if she goes 26 days then
decides the whole "mother" thing isn't for her and abandons the nest...
it is possible :-( Yes I have had it happen and not just with pekins.

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On 08/31/2010 10:16 PM, heather mchone wrote:
> ok thanks. that is good news i guess. it just means for us that the heat isnt affecting them at least. now that its been a little cooler the chickens are now moltig, so no eggs still from them. should i try to incubate the duck eggs or let her do it?
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Re: [CHICKENS-101] RE: OT - Surprise - Georgia

 

she slept lol!
heather

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Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 10:40 PM

 

OK 24 less 12.5 is 11.5 ..... so what happened to those 11.5 ????  

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ok thanks. that is good news i guess. it just means for us that the heat isnt affecting them at least. now that its been a little cooler the chickens are now moltig, so no eggs still from them. should i try to incubate the duck eggs or let her do it?
 
heather
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From: Pete <pondkeep@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] ot ducks
To: CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 10:37 PM

 

It true that pekins are not great nesters ...that said they do build
a nest that holds heat by a form of heat generated by burying the eggs
and moisture .... they also have a great sense of when an egg isn't
fertile and remove it from the nest.

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RE: [CHICKENS-101] BARF.........including chicken!

 

            Well, we are new to this and the estimated amount to feed is 2-4% of their body weight…….so each 100 lb dog is getting 2 to 2.5 lbs daily.  One has maintained his weight and he is the one I want to keep very lean due to the HOD.  The others have lost a little weight, so they are going to be upped about 8oz more per day.  I am weighing them weekly and feeling them DAILY for hip bones and ribs, etc. 

 

            So, for now we are feeding around 10lbs daily.  The cost is probably higher than cheaper kibble but not as high as premium kibble.  The last bag of dogfood I bought cost $46 for a 35 lb bag.  It was Eukaneuba  Salmon. 

 

            Their fish for this month is mackerel on Fridays and they love it.  It was 99cents a pound in a 25 lb case. 

 

            Some of the stuff is a pain and I am learning by trial and error.  I did learn real quick that I don’t like to divide the tripe and have to bag what isn’t used, so I am getting it in 2lb tubes that they finish in one day. (each gets .5 lb) 

 

            I’ll know more in a month or so if I want to continue this – in any case, it is expensive to feed these dogs and if I am going to spend a lot, it might as well be something more natural to their species and healthful.  I just love those shiny white teeth!

 

Laura

 

Laura Roberts

R Half Pint Farm

Spotsylvania, VA 

 

From: CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Johnson
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Subject: RE: [CHICKENS-101] BARF.........including chicken!

 

      

 

 

haha, well, I have 8 LGDs, I figure I would  need about 20 to 25 lbs a day, at one time I had that illusion of raising my dogs' food myself, once I did the math, it became a no-brainer, no way could I raise that much meat year-round and still have money to feed myself. Not to mention the amount of food I would have to haul in. I don't have a pasture or large operation where I could grow my own food for meat animals. 

Most of my dogs like their kibble just as much as they like the raw meat and bones. Actually several of them take the raw stuff out of their bowl, eat the kibble first, then eat the raw stuff. One time I made the mistake and fed the pups raw chicken parts in the chicken yard, well, the chickens had no reservations to steal the raw stuff from the pups, I hadn't thought of that.

 

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Re: [CHICKENS-101] BARF.........including chicken!

 


Good catch, Marlene. I'll have to pay more attention to the bags we buy. Most the time we are getting either the styrofoam flat packs or bags from Sweet Bay, but probably should check next time we buy any bagged as they are probably the most suspect for having the brine added. (Of course, I wonder if a little salt helps them survive in this blasted summer heat off ours - or maybe that just helps dessert people).

Martha

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> I guess we're lucky there. We just have one dog and his favorite is
chicken. So all we have to get is a couple of 5-10 lb bags here and there
and we pay anywhere from .49-.89 per lb depending on the cuts and/or the
sales.

be careful some of the chicken in the stores like the Walmart 10 lbs bags
are injected with a good amount of salt water, I think it says on there up
to 5 % or so of the weight could be just injected salt water

Marlene
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RE: [CHICKENS-101] BARF.........including chicken!

 

            The coordinator of this group has been doing this for several years.  So far, so good, I guess.  She pays for everything with a credit card and everyone pays their share by check or cash back to her.

 

            The company is located in Conn. and shipping ends up costing us about 18 cents per lb.  I think that is pretty good.

 

            The nice thing is you can buy in small packages or bulk….bulk being less expensive per pound, but more cumbersome.  So far, it is working out well.  Thawing a ten lb bag of chicken backs in the fridge takes about three days. 

 

            My dogs are eating about 2lbs per day.  They have lost a little weight, so I am going to have to give them a little bit more…….monitoring their body condition more so than their weight.  They love the new diet!

Laura

 

Laura Roberts

R Half Pint Farm

Spotsylvania, VA 

 

From: CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pete
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Have tried this myself and if you have a good source ( like a club ) it might be worth it. But the group I was with fell apart when some didn't pay and the quality went down after a few months.

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Re: [CHICKENS-101] RE: OT - Surprise - Georgia

 

OK 24 less 12.5 is 11.5 ..... so what happened to those 11.5 ????  

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On 08/31/2010 8:46 PM, CathrynTherese Fitch Walden wrote:

You want me to take pictures of keets after working 12.5 hrs of meetings, packing and sorting, an hour of feeding and watering, and  open house?  All in one day??? 
 

Cathryn





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Re: [CHICKENS-101] ot ducks

 

It true that pekins are not great nesters ...that said they do build
a nest that holds heat by a form of heat generated by burying the eggs
and moisture .... they also have a great sense of when an egg isn't
fertile and remove it from the nest.

Pete
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On 08/31/2010 8:11 PM, heather mchone wrote:
> oh ok. well today i went out and there was an egg next to the tub of water that they swim in and the other eggs still covered. so i just left them all alone after i marked the other one. is it true that pekins dont sit on a nest? that is what i have read i have read so much that i dont know what to believe with them. i have kept their feed the same and just gave them a bigger thing of water to swim in and they seem to love that. im leaving her alone until the fair and the petting zoo we are doing come up. how do i turn them white again they have alittle bit of black dirt on them.
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Re: [CHICKENS-101] RE: OT - Surprise - Georgia

 

Sure, drop everything and work on MY problem - isn't that how the saying goes. 

Khaki cockerals, oh, my, my tongue is hanging out.  Name your price for one them babies, Cath.!  And how much for a couple pounds of White NN Silkies?   It's looking very like the 2 Chocolates I have are pullets, as well as all the WC Blacks except for the Frizzle.  There's only 1 WC Blue cockeral too, all the others are pullets. 

Georgia

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From: CathrynTherese Fitch Walden <cathryntherese@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] RE: OT - Surprise - Georgia
To: CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 1:46 AM



You want me to take pictures of keets after working 12.5 hrs of meetings, packing and sorting, an hour of feeding and watering, and  open house?  All in one day??? 
http://www.guineafowlinternational.org/colorchart/
I'll work on it asap. .
Upper right hand corner, only mine are cuter. Looks like mine are pearl gray and I have no idea what the solid brown ones are.  They sure know who their mommas and poppas are!!  I have NN's everywhere!  They are multiplying faster than rabbits.  I put a couple of really pretty cochinpullets in with the NN sillkies; can;t wait to see the first generation chicks.
Looks like my khaki pullets are both going to be cockerels. They are very nice and petite.
Cathryn


 

They are loud, huh?  I don't want to irritate the 'neck next door too much.  Show me photos.  You know I can't resist once I see something................  Would this 'deal' include any white NN Silkies?     Or any more Khaki and/or Chocolate Polish? 

Georgia

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From: CathrynTherese Fitch Walden <cathryntherese@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] RE: OT - Surprise - Georgia
To: CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 2:39 AM



Georgia, They are beyond adorable, I had to stop playing with them!  Yes, they are headed for the freezer.  I tried to sell them all but had no takers locally.  Do you want them????  I'll make you a special deal. Cathryn





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