Tuesday, July 30, 2013

Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: weak feet

 

 
 
Sara,
>>Hmm... no blood in stools. I guess it could be a chronic intestinal
thing that hasn't shown any signs yet. But diarhea is darkish, not
light. She is eating well. So it may not be cocci. I'm still going
to move her into the hutch where she will have room to stand, attempt to
walk, but still be protected. Other than what I have been doing, not
sure what to be trying....
 
most chickens with cocci do not have bloody diarrhea, they may not have diarrhea at all, but if the gut is not working right then many animals are suffering from B-deficiency. Treating her for coccidiosis isn't likely going to hurt her, but having untreated coccidiosis causes permanent damage to the gut.
I would also suggest to stop using the garlic and pepper, I doubt they do any good and especially garlic can be toxic.
 
 
 
Marlene
Nevada, USA

__._,_.___
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (15)
Recent Activity:
To post a message to the list go to
CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
.

__,_._,___
Posted by at No comments:

Re: [CHICKENS-101] Roost

 

should be about 8 inches up

________________________________
From: Cassie Maas <cassiemaas@gmail.com>
To: "CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com" <CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CHICKENS-101] Roost


 
If they aren't using it now, put something under it like a rock or stump so they can jump up on something to get to it. 

Cassie

__._,_.___
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (9)
Recent Activity:
To post a message to the list go to
CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
.

__,_._,___
Posted by at No comments:

Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: weak feet

 

The question is do you want to run the risk of losing her?  Treat her for the cocci it won't hurt if she doesn't have it. The crush pepper is stopping the bleeding but not curing her. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Sara Mandal-Joy <smjlist@valnet.net> wrote:

 

Okay... wow am I learning. I brought home some dewormer. Now not sure
I should use it. Last three days I had given her food with crushed
raw garlic and hot pepper. Plus a little dish of a dissolved b-50
capsule in a bit of water. She went right for that. Her vent is messy,
but I think that is because she hasn't been able to stand up to do her
business, so has been sitting in it. I have cleaned her up several
times a day and changed the litter. Her stool seems runny but I'm not
seeing any worms. Should I hold off on the dewormer for now? Just from
the b-50, plus the garlic in her food, she is trying to stand up this
morning. She can stand okay, (which she couldn't do last few days), and
bend over to peck at food. She can't walk - falls over when she tries
to take a step. Seems like maybe it could be cocci... yikes. I moved
her out of the pet carrier this morning into my brooder pen in the big
coop, as since she is trying to stand up I want her to have a spot big
enough to be able to do so. But if she has cocci I shouldn't have her
in the big coop. Think I'll go move her out into the rabbit hutch, put
down a layer of cardboard and litter over the wire bottom. That is on
the other side of the house and I'll carefully wash between places. Do
you think continue a couple days on the B Complex before treating her
for the cocci? Sara

__._,_.___
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (14)
Recent Activity:
To post a message to the list go to
CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
.

__,_._,___
Posted by at No comments:

Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: weak feet

 

There are NINE different types of cocci.

 
Cathryn  rainbowsilkiesTM  in  Michigan






From: Sara Mandal-Joy <smjlist@valnet.net>
To: CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:51 PM
Subject: [CHICKENS-101] Re: weak feet

 
Hmm... no blood in stools. I guess it could be a chronic intestinal
thing that hasn't shown any signs yet. But diarhea is darkish, not
light. She is eating well. So it may not be cocci. I'm still going
to move her into the hutch where she will have room to stand, attempt to
walk, but still be protected. Other than what I have been doing, not
sure what to be trying.... Sara


__._,_.___
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (13)
Recent Activity:
To post a message to the list go to
CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
.

__,_._,___
Posted by at No comments:

Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: weak feet

 

GARLIC, long term use like you have been doing causes anemia.  Did you look at the link I posted?

 
Cathryn  rainbowsilkiesTM  in  Michigan






From: Sara Mandal-Joy <smjlist@valnet.net>
To: CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:32 PM
Subject: [CHICKENS-101] Re: weak feet

 
Okay... wow am I learning. I brought home some dewormer. Now not sure
I should use it. Last three days I had given her food with crushed
raw garlic and hot pepper. Plus a little dish of a dissolved b-50
capsule in a bit of water. She went right for that. Her vent is messy,
but I think that is because she hasn't been able to stand up to do her
business, so has been sitting in it. I have cleaned her up several
times a day and changed the litter. Her stool seems runny but I'm not
seeing any worms. Should I hold off on the dewormer for now? Just from
the b-50, plus the garlic in her food, she is trying to stand up this
morning. She can stand okay, (which she couldn't do last few days), and
bend over to peck at food. She can't walk - falls over when she tries
to take a step. Seems like maybe it could be cocci... yikes. I moved
her out of the pet carrier this morning into my brooder pen in the big
coop, as since she is trying to stand up I want her to have a spot big
enough to be able to do so. But if she has cocci I shouldn't have her
in the big coop. Think I'll go move her out into the rabbit hutch, put
down a layer of cardboard and litter over the wire bottom. That is on
the other side of the house and I'll carefully wash between places. Do
you think continue a couple days on the B Complex before treating her
for the cocci? Sara


__._,_.___
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (12)
Recent Activity:
To post a message to the list go to
CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
.

__,_._,___
Posted by at No comments:

Re: [CHICKENS-101] Re: weak feet

 

1.-Worm her -
2-treat her for coccidiosis
3-give b-complex
"Do All today"
would have been better yesterday ... better last week ...
 
I feel so sorry for this chicken suffering thru this for so long ...... at last some treatment .
 
I hope the best for her ,
Shannon
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:32 PM
Subject: [CHICKENS-101] Re: weak feet

 

Okay... wow am I learning. I brought home some dewormer. Now not sure
I should use it. Last three days I had given her food with crushed
raw garlic and hot pepper. Plus a little dish of a dissolved b-50
capsule in a bit of water. She went right for that. Her vent is messy,
but I think that is because she hasn't been able to stand up to do her
business, so has been sitting in it. I have cleaned her up several
times a day and changed the litter. Her stool seems runny but I'm not
seeing any worms. Should I hold off on the dewormer for now? Just from
the b-50, plus the garlic in her food, she is trying to stand up this
morning. She can stand okay, (which she couldn't do last few days), and
bend over to peck at food. She can't walk - falls over when she tries
to take a step. Seems like maybe it could be cocci... yikes. I moved
her out of the pet carrier this morning into my brooder pen in the big
coop, as since she is trying to stand up I want her to have a spot big
enough to be able to do so. But if she has cocci I shouldn't have her
in the big coop. Think I'll go move her out into the rabbit hutch, put
down a layer of cardboard and litter over the wire bottom. That is on
the other side of the house and I'll carefully wash between places. Do
you think continue a couple days on the B Complex before treating her
for the cocci? Sara

__._,_.___
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (11)
Recent Activity:
To post a message to the list go to
CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
.

__,_._,___
Posted by at No comments:

Re: [CHICKENS-101] Roost

 

If they aren't using it now, put something under it like a rock or stump so they can jump up on something to get to it. 

Cassie



On Jul 30, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Diane Chapman <vegascatsinaz@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Hi,
I was wondering how high off the ground the roost should be for Polish chickens who are about 5 months old.  We had it close to the ground when they were younger and then they preferred sleeping on the nesting boxes so my husband raised it up.  I'm just not sure now that it's low enough for them although he thinks it is.
 
Thanks,
Diane
 

__._,_.___
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (8)
Recent Activity:
To post a message to the list go to
CHICKENS-101@yahoogroups.com
.

__,_._,___
Posted by at No comments:
Subscribe to: Posts (Atom)